Oct. 21, 2025
Episode 189: Faith in the Marketplace | Coach John Gallagher Jr. Fearless Leadership & Legacy
In this special throwback episode of the Fearless Faith Radio Show, host Mary Grothe welcomes John Gallagher Jr.—faith-based executive coach, performance consultant, and founder of Growing Champions—for a deeply personal and powerful conversation on integrating faith into leadership.
John shares his journey from a Catholic upbringing to discovering a deeper, more intimate relationship with God, and how that transformation shaped his calling to coach leaders of leaders. This episode is more than a testimony—it’s a blueprint for living out fearless faith in the marketplace.
Together, Mary and John explore:
- The role of faith in corporate America
- How mentorship and influence shape legacy
- The uphill climb of purpose-driven leadership
- Balancing work, family, and spiritual discipline
- Why servant leadership is the highest form of impact
- Scriptural truths that guide daily decisions
- The power of intentionality, forgiveness, and legacy-building
John’s reflections are raw, real, and radically encouraging for any leader who wants to glorify God through their work. Whether you’re leading a team, building a business, or navigating your own transformation, this episode will challenge you to lead with purpose, humility, and eternal impact.
Key Quotes from John:
- “Faith without works is dead.”
- “I commit to the Lord and all that I do is for working for Him and not for human masters.”
- “Anything worth doing is uphill—and it’s a rocky hill you go up.”
- “The greatest story ever told is when your name is written on someone’s list of five people who made a positive impact on their life.”
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00:00 - Framing Work Through Scripture
00:33 - Show Welcome And Mission
01:01 - Meet Guest John Gallagher
02:08 - Early Faith And Marriage Roots
03:38 - The Communion Scare
06:39 - A Nudge Toward Church And Family
09:49 - The Grocery Store Pastor Invitation
12:30 - Baptism And Community Growth
15:12 - Bringing Faith Into Work Begins
17:23 - Daily Disciplines And Serving At Church
19:15 - Founding Growing Champions
21:02 - Modeling Christ In Consulting
22:45 - Family Update And Ministry Calling
25:45 - Hospitality And Neighborhood Ministry
28:00 - Career Moves And Brand Builders Ad
29:06 - Sponsor Messages And Links
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That was his first gift to humanity.
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And work is good.
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And faith without works is dead.
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And diving into what scripture says about work, it's so beautiful how God created humans and how he created work and what we can do with our work to glorify him and further the kingdom even in a broken world.
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And I know the enemy doesn't like what you and I try.
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Welcome to the Fearless Faith Radio Show, which follows me, Mary Grothy, and my path as a Christian executive in corporate America.
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I share the highs and lows, provide scripture and teaching, and then interview influential guests who are walking the topic.
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I aim to help fill the discipleship gap for Christians in the workplace by creating powerful and real weekly lessons we can all learn from and implement.
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Welcome to the Fearless Faith Radio Show.
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I'm your host, Mary Grothy, and today I'm joined by an old friend, John Gallagher.
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He and I met through the branding company that helped launch my personal brand.
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You've heard me talk about them.
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Brand builders group, we call it BBG for short.
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John was so kind to have me as a guest on his show several months ago.
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I thought it was an excellent interview.
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Very emotional at one point, which I didn't anticipate, but sometimes that happens.
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I was so grateful to be on his platform and to have an opportunity to share my testimony and some of the good news of the gospel to his audience.
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And now today we get to return serve, and I'm so grateful that he is here.
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I'm gonna give you just a little brief intro on who he is, but truly the delight is gonna be in him sharing his story.
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John is a faith-based executive coach, performance consultant, and advisor to some of the world's leading organizations.
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John Gallier, welcome to the show.
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Oh, it's so great to be on, Mary.
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I appreciate the opportunity and I appreciate what you do with your radio show and your podcast.
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I'm excited about our conversation today.
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I love that.
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Me too, me too, me too.
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Okay.
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So I know a little bit about your story, but I want to make sure the audience gets to hear all the details.
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So take us back as far as you want to go.
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The floor is yours.
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We're so excited to hear your story this morning.
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Mary, thank you so much.
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And I'd love, you know, even at a point where I am today, I'm not yet where I want to be, which is a good thing.
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I'll still be on that journey.
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Hopefully, a lifelong learner, both in my faith and in other areas of my life.
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But if I take you back, let's just let's just kind of talk about that upgrading and upbringing and how my faith has ultimately played a role going forward.
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I grew up uh in the Catholic Church.
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Uh I went to Catholic school up through eighth grade.
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And ultimately, I think that's a story that many have.
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As I went through high school, I was an altar boy at church.
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Uh, we were, we were those that went to church infrequently.
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And while it was a part of my life, I don't know that God was necessarily a part of my life in that space.
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Went off to college and and truly lost connection completely.
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But ultimately, uh, while in school, found my wife, who's been my wife now for over 30 years.
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And once we did get married shortly after college, it was us having a discussion that we really knew that in starting a family, we needed to be uh in the church.
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We didn't we didn't yet know what that really meant, but that we needed to be in the church.
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And we were living away.
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We had I had moved her away from her hometown.
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We were living in St.
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Louis, Missouri.
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I'd love to kind of start off, start this journey off.
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And she grew up in the Baptist church.
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I grew up in the Catholic church.
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We were married in the Methodist church.
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We were a mess.
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We had no idea really what's happening with regards to our marriage.
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Uh and so we said, well, let's try, let's try a couple different churches to see what's there for us.
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First time we went to Catholic Church, uh, we were there and imagine huge uh old church uh in a suburb of St.
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Louis, and my wife kind of elbows me as communion starting, and she says, I'm not feeling really well.
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And we had both we had people on both sides of St.
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Pew.
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I said, Well, give give us a second here.
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Once the line gets back to us for communion, we'll just walk out the back of the church instead of waiting to go on.
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And she didn't make it.
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Her eyes rolled in the back of their head, her head.
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She passed out, hit the pew in front of us, and slid on the marble floors underneath the pew.
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And I was uh in a position of like, I don't know what to do.
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People around me, want me to call 911?
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I said, I don't know.
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I was like, you know, we're we're young, uh, we are we're healthy, and it didn't make sense.
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But thankfully, she she did wake up uh as she lay on the marble tiles there, and ultimately she said it just felt good on her cheeks while she was there.
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Took her to the hospital.
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Uh no, nothing was found, no, even their blood sugar was fine.
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Um, but ultimately maybe it was a a sign from God that we weren't supposed to be in the Catholic Church.
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Fast forward a few years, we're back in our hometown of Roanoke, Virginia.
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We have a child, and I know uh when we took my son to be christened in the in the Methodist church, my wife's grandmother's church, I just I just recalled him uh looking up at me as a baby, and and I heard, you know, the voice, you know, whether it was his or not, he said, Don't don't mess this up ultimately.
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And being a father as a parent for the first time as a husband, I really and I just knew we we were missing something.
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And it was something that took us on a journey, really started on a journey for us inside of that faith space.
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For me specifically, it was one that I was that I was uncomfortable in that space.
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And we were in search.
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And I know I put this in the story.
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Uh, if I fast forward a few years in terms of when we were looking, we were really struggling as a family.
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We had not found a church, we had moved again to Indiana, away from family, no friends, and we were in need uh of something.
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And I recall uh going into the grocery store, our favorite grocery store, and I'm checking out, usually in you know, in a space years ago when you actually had to check out uh with somebody who was at the register, uh, not use the self-checkout, but I got a tap on the back of my shoulder, and the gentleman behind me had asked me if I was from West Virginia because I had a West Virginia University sweatshirt on.
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I'm in Indiana.
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And I said, Yeah, I am.
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He says, Well, so am I as well.
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He was from uh town, he grew up in a town about a hundred miles from where I was, but we started to carry on a conversation and you know, graciously he said, So are you all uh attending a church here in town?
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And I said, No, but I got to tell you, we've been looking and uh we're really in need of it.
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We've not connected with people, and it's just something that we really need.
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He said, Well, I just happened to be a pastor of a church down the street, and so I'd like to invite you to our church this Sunday.
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And I tell you, we walked in and we knew when we walked in, I mean, I had become a fan of John Maxwell and his teaching style and had listened to him for a while as a former Wesleyan pastor, but they were teaching like that inside of this church in terms of the message and the fill in the blank.
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And I tell you, as soon as I walked in, I knew that was a place that God had kind of put us into.
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That was the year uh 2002.
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Uh both my wife and I, as we grew in that journey, uh, had decided at that point in time to uh publicly profess our faith.
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So it was 2003.
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We were baptized by Immersion in the Lake outside of sunrise, and kind of the the story really started for us from there, from August 2003 to that.
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But I, you know, I just loved, I said, I think one of the books is going to be God Found Me in the checkout line at the grocery store.
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And I know that that's uh somewhat of a joke, but I I still uh am while I'm in South Carolina now, uh I still remain friends with that pastor.
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Uh he and I stay connected, and I just always am very grateful for him and who he was in our life at that point in time.
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For me, I had been in the marketplace and I hadn't even thought of really uh incorporating uh my faith and my work together, if you will.
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They were two, they were still two separate lives, but it was something that we were continuing to grow.
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I was not a I was not a reader or immersed uh in the Bible, but I remember one day I was having a problem at work, and I did have a copy of a Ben's devotional Bible on my desk.
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And I had I was having a problem at work, and I finally had said, maybe if I open this book, I'll find something there.
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And I literally just opened it and it opened up to Joshua 1.9, and I couldn't believe it.
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I mean, it literally opened up to the page Joshua 1, uh, and I read through that and found verse 9.
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We're talking we're talking about, you know, do not fear, but be bold and courageous.
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Uh, then I will be with you in that.
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And I may I'm not I'm paraphrasing, I know I'm not saying that verse exactly, but that was something there that I'm like, wow, this this kind of this book has some words in here that are a lot of really good wisdom.
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We became part of a home group, uh, which again grew our faith as well.
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And it was something that we continue to move forward.
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I still know that God continues to work in me today.
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And it's really been in the past five years where I've started to develop the disciplines of being in the word daily, daily prayer uh in my life, uh serving in the church.
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I mean, again, so if if I had to be in that parking lot and park in a certain space and uh traffic lights had to be perfect for God to find me in the in the store, and I have something to do with with grocery cards and parking lots now.
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I lead the parking team and the greeting team at church.
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I've done that for about 10 years.
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And it's just something that they're that gives me an opportunity to serve as well.
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Today, uh I've been uh while I had worked for large companies for a long time for the past four years, I've been the uh CEO and founder of Growing Champions, which uh is a is a faith is a faith-based consulting and coaching firm, if you will.
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I myself and one other mentor, he and I work together to coach uh organizations through a process that we've developed through our teaching in in both leadership development and in process improvement.
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And while the the processes themselves do not necessarily incorporate uh Christ into those processes, it's the way that he and I try to model, to be imitable, to be invitational and to others that will allow them to see Christ through us as we continue to grow on that journey.
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And again, I just know that I'm still an infant on that journey.
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Some of your words, you know, on my podcast for the first time, the Uncommon Leader podcast, where you shared your testimony, that that's something that uh was very the first time, Mary.
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And I know it opened my eyes up to God as well.
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Like I have to share more of that faith inside of my podcast as well and the work that I do.
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So I think that was a catalyst as well.
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You go back to that, I appreciate you remembering that.
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But that was that was breakthrough for my podcast when I started to really uh bring people on and start to share their story.
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So that brings us to today.
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And I know that God put us on that phone call with BBG together and uh started that connection as well.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, that's an incredible story.
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Uh how many kids do you have?
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Two boys, 20, soon to be 28 and 25.
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Oh my gosh, that's so special.
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What have they gone on to do?
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Yeah, so my my oldest, my 28-year-old, was an exercise science major at Liberty University.
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He was a cheerleader for the football team, and uh, so he's big into fitness and things like that.
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And he is uh manager of a stretch zone right here in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
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And then my youngest actually did end up going into ministry.
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So he was youth ministry major uh at Liberty University.
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He's now uh in his second year working with Young Life in Boulder, Colorado, trying to bring the word to middle schools uh in that region, one of the most unchurched regions in our country.
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Uh hard work that he's doing, but committed to the work that he's doing as well, raising his funds uh to pay for his salary to do that.
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And he just got married in November of last year as well to uh a young woman, beautiful, uh full of God as well.
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So they are they are just thriving.
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I just you know wish they weren't so far away, but that is what it is.
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He's in the he's where exactly where he needs to be.
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Well, you'll have to connect us after this so that I can cook them a really nice meal and have them come over because we're about an hour away from Boulder.
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That would be fantastic.
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Absolutely.
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We'll have them.
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I do Sunday salmon every Sunday, open up my home to whoever wants to come, but I cook a big spread that's been on my heart to eventually open that up to the community and sit down with our neighbors just right here in the community that maybe look a little bit different from us.
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I live in a really nice neighborhood.
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I'm I'm beyond blessed with what the Lord has bespowed, bestowed upon us and in our lives and in my marriage and financially through the work that He's given me the gifts and talents to do.
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And we live in a really amazing neighborhood and a really amazing house.
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But I know that my heart is still with my neighbors that come from the same life of where I came from.
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And I think as BBG taught us, we're always best positioned to serve who we once were.
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And I think about the transformation that happened in my own life and extending my hand out to who I used to be, to those people who are in that place.
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So much of life transformation not happens because someone told you to do something.
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There's a plethora of information out there in this world.
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It's the people who choose to do life and walk side by side with them and show them a different way of living, to let them witness what Christ can do in your life if you're willing to surrender and let him be the Lord of your life.
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And so I love opening my home right now on Sundays.
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So you'll have to connect us.
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I would love to meet them and learn about their work and help support them.
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I think I when I moved from Indiana, we moved to Boulder, Colorado.
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And so I went to high school out there.
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And I would agree with you that it is very unchurched to community.
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And it was very different than what I grew up in in Northwest Indiana.
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Not to say that I grew up in the church, but there were traditional conservative values that were just a part of the community that I was raised in.
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Like if we didn't go to church, I didn't know Jesus.
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But there was a conservative and traditional way of living in the community.
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And in Boulder, it's like a flippin' free-for-all.
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It is a completely different way.
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So I hope to meet them.
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Um I can't wait to learn about the I will I will connect you all, you and Jojo.
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Uh as he's come to be known out there, not to us, but to everybody who knows him out there.
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I love that.
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And he's still Joseph for us.
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So yeah, that's so special.
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Wow, what an accomplishment.
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You know, my son is eight, and I'm starting to realize that my career, my work will have some components of legacy in it because I'm taking on projects now that are very worthy in the name of the Lord.
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And I'm continuing to seek those and I see something in my future where I'm going to be able to apply my marketplace talents and more kingdom work, which I'm very excited about to continue to watch the Lord unfold.
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But in the same state of being, I'm starting to see my eight-year-old son and seeing who he's becoming and the conversations that we have and his independence and his decisiveness.
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He's an only child, and we've only loved him through logic growing up.
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We never babied him.
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He's always been explained the truth, the way, the, the why behind everything.
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He's of such sound mind and he's a good, good hearted boy with a great head on his shoulders and just continuing to nurture in that.
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And I look at my son as that's the real legacy.
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That is where, like, that's that's my name, that's my flesh and blood that's gonna go on.
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So you must be so proud of your children and so incredible to see them now as adults.
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Like I that's crazy to me to think my son's gonna be an adult one day.
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I know, right?
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Yeah, you blink.
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I mean, because I can you know in that story of that journey, they they you know grew up with us uh on that journey, all the mistakes that we made, but also all the all the blessings that we received in that church family that we got into.
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So that's so beautiful.
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What caused all the moves in your early years of your marriage?
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Yeah, I think it's a career for me.
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So it was more as a manufacturing executive where I started out, I went through a manufacturing and trunking program.
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So even as we got married right out of college, I knew I was gonna have to move three times.
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My wife and I did Indiana, then Chicago, then St.
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Louis, Missouri.
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Ultimately, the fourth move was back to her hometown.
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My organization had a facility uh in her hometown.
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So we made that move back.
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We're like, we're gonna be here forever.
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And then six years later, I was called to Fort Wayne, Indiana.
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Got a little bit cold there, but fantastic.
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Again, uh the story had been written.
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That was you know, where uh we ran into uh God or he ran into us in the in the checkout line at the grocery store uh and made that possible for us.
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And then we moved back again in 2006 to Roanoke, Virginia, and lived there for 20 years, raised our boys there in Roanoke.
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Now in South Carolina, after we've had a chance to raise our children there and got to a point where I was still traveling with work on a regular basis.
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I just need to be somewhat close to a an airport that could get somewhere.
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My wife's parents had moved down here a couple years earlier.
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So when I travel, uh makes a good opportunity for her to be able to serve her parents and be with her parents as they uh go to the next stage of their life as well and need to be supported.
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Wow, that's really beautiful.
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I love that.
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Okay.
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I have so much I want to dig into in your work and how you're serving people in the business community.
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I need to lead us into a very short break.
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We'll be back in just a minute.
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On the other side of the break, we're gonna dig in.
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Plus, I want to hear about you bringing your faith to the forefront in your work and what that transition was like.
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Because I know that that's creates a little conflict for people, especially in corporate America.
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Like, where does my faith fit into this?
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I would love to dive into those topics on the other side of this.
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