Oct. 14, 2025
Episode 188: Servant Leadership, Champion Mindset & Excellence: Transforming Business and Life with John Gallagher
Join us for a transformative conversation with John Gallagher, Founder & CEO of Growing Champions Coaching & Consulting.
In this episode, John unpacks the core of the Champion Mindset—inspired by sports legends like Kobe Bryant and Tom Brady—emphasizing perseverance, discipline, and the relentless pursuit of excellence. Discover the profound impact of Servant Leadership on corporate culture, drawing from John Maxwell’s philosophies.
John shares actionable insights for personal growth, including intentional success habits and how to prioritize value-adding activities to enhance health, finances, and relationships. Learn how to overcome limiting beliefs and build a lasting legacy through positive mentorship. A must-listen for anyone seeking effective leadership and executive coaching strategies.
Listen to the full episode at the Podcast Show Doing Business with a Servants Heart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax0zSvSw7uA&t=5s.
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00:00 - Welcome & Serve Today Challenge
02:08 - Sponsor Message: Pantheon Alliance
03:08 - Meet John Gallagher & Growing Champions
06:56 - The Champion Mindset and Growth
10:02 - Servant Leadership and Influence
14:28 - Sports Lessons Applied to Business
19:10 - Four Pillars of Organizational Change
23:12 - Childhood Bullying to Leadership Values
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I love that given the information of a certain leadership.
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Well, if I go back to the guy who's impacted me the most in terms of my leadership development, John Mac12, the first leadership that was given to me back in 1998 leadership.
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And his definition of leadership was nothing more, nothing less.
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And that's disturbing.
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You know, if we're going to influence others to do things, then we must disturb them.
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Oftentimes I'll talk about it from a biblical mindset as well.
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Welcome everyone to doing business with a servant's heart podcast.
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I'm your host, Steve Ramona.
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I am so thrilled to have you join us today.
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This podcast is dedicated to exploring the idea of doing business and living life with a purpose.
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We believe that when we approach our work and our lives with a servant heart, we can truly make a difference.
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We created this show because we want everyone to be motivated, inspired, and educated to make an impact in your world.
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We don't want you to keep it.
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We want you to share it with the world so we can make that impact.
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I just have five minute conversation with my guests.
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You're going to love this guy, but while you're listening to him, I want you to think about how you're serving today and what impact you create today.
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Again, I'm going to circle that keyword of today.
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I've talked to people, I've listened to the podcast, and go, you know, I forgot about it and a couple months went by.
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Don't do that.
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And it does, it could be just calling your grandmother or calling your best friend or telling somebody they have a beautiful daughter.
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Serve somebody today, and guarantee you you'll feel great about that.
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Today's episode is proudly sponsored by our incredible partner, Pantheon Alliance.
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Imagine being part of an exclusive community of high-income, successful business owners and entrepreneurs from very diverse industries.
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Together, we are building a thought leader platform to impact and change the world.
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For more information, just reach out to me and I'll get you that information.
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With that being said, impact is a big part of my monologue.
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That's what I'm trying to do with this podcast.
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But this is a true servant.
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Using champions in his business name, you gotta love it.
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John, welcome to the show.
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Steve, thanks so much for the opportunity.
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Looking forward to our conversation today, friend.
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I feel like I've known you forever already.
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It's been yeah, we could go on for hours, but we won't.
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We'll go on for a nice 20, 25 minutes.
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All righty.
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Growing growing champions.
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Talk about it.
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I'm excited to hear more.
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Yeah, I appreciate that opportunity.
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I mean, as I I've been uh an organizer or coaching and consulting company for four years now, left the uh world of IBM and some other uh large consulting companies post-COVID, like many, made a change and decided to go out on my own.
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And I was sitting around and I'd been coached by a company called Building Champions before.
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And my sons were actually attending Liberty University, where my oldest son actually was a cheerleader for the football team there as well.
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And their their theme was growing champions for Christ.
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And I'm talking to my wife, I'm like, if I get this started, I don't want to call it John Gallagher Enterprises or something like that, or John Gallagher Coach.
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I want something different.
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She said, okay, put those two things together and just call it growing champions.
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I'm like, well, that seems almost too simple.
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And we got it started like that.
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But when I think about that champion and having that mindset of a champion and why that word ultimately was so important to me, it was not just about the number of wins that went along with that, but the mindset that comes along with the champion uh that they're not going to give up and they're going to keep striving uh to be more and more successful and have the impact that you talk about each and every day.
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Yeah, you just when you said that, John, or think of Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady.
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Like him or not, that doesn't matter.
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It's they had a champion mindset.
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All that people helping them, but they got up earlier than everybody.
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They stayed later and I mean they did the champion mindset, but took actions with that.
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I love that.
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But I don't want to disregard growing because I love that word because we talked about earlier about younger people.
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We can learn from them.
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Talk about your growing part of that.
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Absolutely.
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One of my core values that I operate under, personal core values, Steve, is growth.
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Personal growth on a daily basis.
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And frankly, as a leader, growing others, hence the word growing champions.
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And that I know that that that really that growth side, being a lifelong learner, is something that I've committed to.
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I don't look forward to a day where I say that I'm retiring, if you will, to go for, but I I ultimately I want to take care of myself in an intentional way, both for my health, spiritual development, and leadership development, you know, that allows me to grow on a daily basis.
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You see behind me in terms of video, the books that I read is something that I do on a regular basis.
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And so I've taken that very important.
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And then the other side of that when I do my consulting of growth is that I want those organizations to grow the leaders and in those organizations so that they can have eternal and kingdom impact with the opportunities that they have as well.
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Awesome.
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And you mentioned leadership and leader.
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I love that.
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Give me your definition of a servant leadership.
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Well, if I go back to the guy who's impacted me the most in terms of my leadership development, is John Maxwell, was the first leadership book that was given to me back in 1998, the 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership.
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And his definition of leadership was influence, nothing more, nothing less.
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And as a servant, you know, if we're going to influence others to do things, then we must serve them.
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Oftentimes I'll talk about it from a biblical mindset as well.
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And the, you know, the verse in the Bible says ultimately Jesus was not sent here to be served, but to serve.
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And those of the lesser of us will reap and enjoy the success that's there.
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And I just I view that at the same side in terms of being a servant to serve others, seeing them grow uh can be frankly uh as much of a prize for me as seeing myself grow.
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Man, you gave me a huge thought when you mentioned Jesus.
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And I've never thought about this because I always think leaders are always mentoring, and that's what you were saying.
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Well, Jesus mentored 12 people to become messengers for millions.
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We can do that too.
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Of course, not his level, but we could do that as humans, right?
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Yes, we could, absolutely.
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And you think about those 12 that he mentored as well.
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I mean, they weren't the elite of the group.
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He pulled in the carpenters, the fishermen, and those that were just kind of uncommon, or excuse me, common men uh and poured into them, equip them, inspired them, and taught them uh to do uncommon things.
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Great point.
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See, that's why I love being a host.
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I get to learn as well as have fun.
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Let's let's do the sports and business bridge.
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We talked about sports and we could have talked about sports for hours.
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I love it and talk about it all the time.
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What's your uh thoughts on that with the sports and business?
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Well, specifically for me, when I think about sports, so I grew up playing sports, basketball, football, baseball through high school.
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You know, I was you know good enough to be able to play in those days.
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I did not go on to play in college, but I gotta tell you, I was competitive, no doubt about it.
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Those juices uh flowed into me from a competitive spirit.
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And when I think about business, I do think competition, uh, while it's not necessarily at the win at all cost methodology, that the competitive spirit inside a business to me is just like the competitive spirit that's inside of a successful business coach.
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We mentioned a few of those names before we got started.
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Lou Holtz was one of those, Tony Dungey, and those individuals that used leadership as their primary methodology in which they teach.
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One of the things being a West Virginia fan, I love when I heard just a few years ago when new head coach Neil Brown actually presented his coaches with the book Developing the Leader Within You and reviewed it with them on a regular basis.
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So it wasn't just about the game or the sport of football, but it was also about growing individuals that were going to have an impact.
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One of the most memorable moments that I have as coaching my son's basketball team uh in seventh grade.
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And you start thinking about things, we'd sit down at the end of each practice, sixth and seventh graders, and talk about leadership, respect, and attitude and the way that he approached it, way that they approached it.
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And they didn't necessarily uh love it at the time, but I remember when uh one of the young men graduated from high school and he came back to me afterwards and said, Hey, I just remember when you coached us about attitude uh during that.
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That was three or four or five years earlier.
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So we never know again, use the word impact, the impact we're having on folks.
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Sometimes you know it down the road.
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But to me, that's the greatest story ever told when you get when you get stories like that of impact being a coach for someone.
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That's the power of coaching.
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You're developing leaders with young people.
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We need more of that now than ever.
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Let's be flat and honest.
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It's this we do.
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These young generations, they need to lead a lot of this uh leadership mentality.
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What is your main focus on your consulting?
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Yeah, for me specifically, when I look at uh working with organizations inside the consulting space, I really uh do it in the form of four sticks uh that I'm looking for.
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And I talk about the leader themselves.
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The leader's got to make the decision they've got to want to change uh to go forward.
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And we can talk about that in terms of the seven steps.
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But once that leader has made the choice, once they've made the decision that they're not willing to accept the status quo, we have an opportunity.
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Then we move forward with developing their team and coaching their team with the skills and equipping them with the knowledge that they need to be successful, then starting with implementing the systems and processes that they need to be successful.
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And that ultimately those three things together, those three sticks together, lead to that enduring impact.
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Oftentimes, organizations will see some intermittent success with some of the things that they can do.
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But when you get in lockstep harmony and the leader is committed to growing themselves, the organization's only going to grow as far as that leader of the organization grows.
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John Maxwell refers to it as the law of the lid.
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And if you have individuals on your team that are growing faster than you are as a leader, you better keep an eye out for that because they're either going to leave the organization or it's going to be something that you're just not going to be able to capture that success.
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It doesn't mean you have to be smarter than them at everything you do.
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It just means you have to be developing your own leadership skills, your influence with them, your vision so that they can see where you're going as a leadership and be able to follow you again to reach that ultimate pinnacle of uh success.
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That's a million-dollar tip right there for anybody that's a founder, CEO of a business, because you start losing all your staff, your business is in trouble for probably the wrong reasons.
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So I I read and you sent me some information that you had a childhood event having that impacted your life.
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I believe your past experiences, not all of it, some live with you.
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What was the impact you had as a child?
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Oh, wow.
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Well, I mean, I I I love that as a story, and there's so many that could talk.
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Many people talk about big things that they've overcome.
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For me, it was uh simply you know being bullied as a child and you know, understanding that I was definitely different.
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I grew up in a town uh that was uh primarily Italian, influence that was inside the town.
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I loved the food and I loved all that went along with it.
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But this uh tall guy with red hair uh and a big head stood out, no doubt about it, and became an easy target for that.
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And oftentimes, if I if I'm being you know brutally honest, it was an opportunity for me uh to then rather than to fight that is trying to find somebody else that I could do the same.
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And I tell you, I look back on that right now in terms of as a child and ultimately have been disappointed in myself for that behavior.
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But really thinking about again when coaching kids today and observing that behavior, I mean, I've heard you're most powerfully positioned to help the person that you used to be in your leadership development, whatever that means.
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And I have an opportunity to influence others.
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And that whether that's coaching my son's basketball team and not accepting some of those behaviors with regards to bullying or things that are going on, coaching uh individuals in the church, young adults, or frankly coaching folks that I've led in business as well and not allowing those behaviors to happen, uh, or teaching folks what the impact of kindness and influence can be rather than uh trying to dominate someone and how the results can be more significant.
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It's something that I try from a mindset standpoint not to harp on a whole lot and say that I have a chip on my shoulder about it, but it's certainly influenced my leadership style uh over the years.
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It's in your radar because you experience it.
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And I it's interesting you mentioned bully.
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You're the third guest this last two weeks that mentioned bullying.
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It's a problem, and especially now with technology.
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Yeah, different kind of bullying today, the electronic bullying that exists.
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Goodness gracious.
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Yeah, and I think kindness is the key.
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That that's the big start of that.
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This has been staring now, audience.
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If you're listening or listening to this podcast and not watching, John's got a great t-shirt that says excellent.
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What's your definition of excellence?
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How do you input that in your coaching and consulting?
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Yeah, thanks for asking it.
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And it is that excellence only happens on purpose.
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I can't, I don't have it quite high enough, but it is uh it ultimately uh when I think about uh going in with organizations, I want them to set what they they really want their North Star to be.
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I often refer to it in the framework as their so that.
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You know, they have an opportunity to do some work, they know they must change, but it's so that they have that impact that they want to.
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And that often feels like an ideal state or perfection that they're shooting for.
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And sometimes that feels just quite out of reach.
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But of going back to a sports analysis analogy, Vince Lombardi had a quote where he says, You should strive for perfection and strive for that every day.
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Know that you might reach excellence on the way there.
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And so excellence is not the end game.
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Excellence is a place that you get to by doing it on purpose, by being very intentional with your habits and disciplines and being better at your competition than doing those daily, weekly, and monthly things that you have to do to be successful.
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And not just at work as well, but in taking care of your own health and taking care of your finances and taking care of your faith development and those, all those relationships that common leaders, hope you're enjoying the episode so far.
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Now, let's get back to the as well, being intentional about that.
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The saying I'd love to say there was really something, but I have a a picture that's up in my office and probably should get a small one for behind me that says oaks excellence only happens on purpose.
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And there's a picture, it was from the Liberty University president who posted it on his Instagram page.
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And it was actually a picture in the background of my son carrying a flag.
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He was the cheerleader at Liberty University, a huge flag across the football field at Liberty University.
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So 120 yards each time they scored a touchdown.
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When he was there, Hugh Freeze was the head coach.
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They were scoring a lot of points and a lot of touchdowns.
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And he'd have to run that thing 120 yards through the wind, even through the weather and whatever that meant.
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And being able to do that was only going to be done through the discipline he had to do to get stronger and be involved that every day.
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So it's just a reminder to me that if I'm going to achieve the things that I want to, that I need to do that on purpose and be very intentional with it.
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Might be a tough question, John, but I like what you're doing and saying.
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Can anybody be excellent?
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I think so.
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I absolutely do.
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Look, here's what I believe.
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Folks who have good intention, okay, and I think many of I again, I believe folks have good intention, but they have good intention without discipline, that leads to excuses.
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But if you have good discipline with good intentions, then that leads to excellence.
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And so those two things together, those are things that anyone can do.
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Whether it's read, you know, becoming a reader.
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I love the quote.
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I don't have time to read.
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But the simple math is this if I read 10 pages a day, the average leadership book is 220 pages.
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I can read a book every 22 days.
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I can read 12, 13 books a year simply by putting the time in my calendar to spend 10 minutes to read 10 pages in a book.
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You know, oftentimes folks will say I'm not a reader.
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And our mutual uh friend Nick Hutchison would say it's the$10,000 rule that if I gave you$10,000 to read a book over the next 30 days, I bet you could get that book read.
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So if what's got what's more important to you, it's getting your priorities in line rather than sitting down and binging on a Netflix series that's not adding any value to you or scrolling endlessly through social media in the name of personal development at times or whatever that means for us, but just become intentional with just 10 minutes a day inside of our space.
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What that can lead to from a development standpoint is powerful.
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Okay, I'm gonna recap that again because that's a powerful message because the$10,000 is legit, meaning you read 12 books.
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Are you gonna make an extra 10,000?
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Again, it depends what you sell, but absolutely, probably much more than that.
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That's right.
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So it's 10 pages a day, average page is 220 pages per book.
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That's 22 days to finish a book, about 12 to 13 a year.
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Absolutely.
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And what do you think most people are reading in a year on a oh well?
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I mean, the data would tell you that um at least 50% of Americans don't pick up another book after they graduate from high school or college, and that's part of the horrendous part of it.
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Um, those individuals that are uh reading 10, 12 books a year, I think are in the top one percent with regards to individuals who are doing leadership development.
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There's just not that many people that are doing it.
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It's hard, it's it's hard, but it's not really hard, it's actually simple.
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And simple is hard because you have to be disciplined.
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John, you're brilliant because you just you just lived your words.
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It's simple.
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Can I do 10 pages a day?
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Was it 15 minutes?
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Can I carve off 15 minutes and then go watch your Netflix, you know, or scroll on, but get your priorities straight.
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I'm getting fired up here because I love what you said.
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When it's teaching me, you know, I'll do a couple pages, but my goal is 10 pages a day.
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That's it.
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Then I put the book away and then I can do those other things.
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I always say 1% every day, get better 1% every day, and there's your 1% right there.
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Love that.
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That's hanging up in the gym over there, which is another one.
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You want to get better in the fitness world, get yourself in the gym, right?
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Well, I you know I just don't have time to do that.
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Well, you know, the heaviest, the heaviest weight that's in the gym is the front door.
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You just got to get through the front door.
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Once you're in there, you're gonna make it happen.
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I ran health clubs and I've never heard that, and that's a good one.
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